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112: Get out of your way! How to learn from the people we hate.

Updated: Sep 2, 2018

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This week on a new episode of Diferente podcast I had the pleasure of chatting with creative entrepreneur and fellow podcaster, Pam Covarrubias.


We bonded over several topics like what we can learn from the people we don't like... or sometimes hate. And how we need to stop comparing our success to other people's successes.


"Pam is a Documentary Photographer, Brand Strategist, Podcast Host and Storyteller at heart who works with individuals to help them develop their personal and professional identities while staying true to their story."


Pam shares with us the experiences that have taught her to get out of her own way and create her own version of success.


She also helps bring other people's stories on her podcast, Café Con Pam. Where she has interviewed notable and interesting people like Mexican actor and comedy icon, Eugenio Derbez.




Connect with Pam here, and learn more about her upcoming product release of the SNOOZET phone pocket! A great way to be more present and mindful away from our phones...



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